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Post by Dragon Slayer on Oct 10, 2007 6:28:45 GMT -5
If A Tree Falls Down And Nobodys There To Hear It Does It Make A Noice.
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Post by BTKGF on Oct 10, 2007 6:31:01 GMT -5
Did it actualy fall?
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Post by M.Madison on Oct 10, 2007 8:15:49 GMT -5
This particular debate is really about the human conditioning and perception and has very little to do with trees falling.
It COULD go on forever because it's philosophical in nature.
on a scientific level, the tree probably made a noise we where simply not there to hear/observe it. This is based on previous observations of falling trees and there's a level of guesstimated probability.
On a philosophical level, we didn't hear it, we didn't perceive the sound, so it didn't make a sound. This is like the space alien debate, we haven't met any space aliens so thus there's no such thing.
Things you don't know can't hurt you in other words.
Don't think I personally agree with the philosophical version of this, I like to take a neutral stand point where people don't live in a bubble and things happen around them regardless of whether or not they are aware of them.
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Post by BTKGF on Oct 10, 2007 9:18:15 GMT -5
I was going to argue that the only true way to know if it actualy fell was to have a deaf person there (as that would fulfill the no one there to HEAR it part) and does sound exist if the deaf person can not hear? This would be yes. so therefore it did make a noise though there was no one to hear it.
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